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Orix-Kintetsu Merger Fallout

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Orix-Kintetsu Merger Fallout
The NPB is getting exactly what they wanted to avoid due to their ill-conceived Orix/Kintetsu debacle.
  1. The Players Association is showing thier muscle.
  2. Fans are speaking up and being heard.
  3. Players strike last September
  4. Players are rejecting offers from Orix Buffaloes.
  5. Players interested in playing for Rakuten.
  6. New expansion team with creative new ideas.

All the NPB had to do was allow Livedoor, Rakuten, or someone else buy the Buffaloes the traditional way such as the Soft Bank deal with the Fukuoka Hawks.

Looks like new ideas are being floated such as possibilty of play with the KBO and CPBL; better attitude to players and fans; and a different relationship with MLB.

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Re: Orix-Kintetsu Merger Fallout
[ Author: Guest: John Brooks | Posted: Dec 22, 2004 11:20 AM ]

The NPB basically asked for this after they forced the Orix-Kintestu merger. We saw the players strike which was unheard of in the past. We saw the NPB add an expansion team in Rakuten. The Players Association is starting become heard. And most of all, we are seeing that the merger is causing just what was expected, with the Iwakuma situation, that Orix continues to try to force him to play for the Orix Buffaloes against his will.

Right now, as a result of the merger, the NPB has changed.
Re: Orix-Kintetsu Merger Fallout
[ Author: Kiyoshi | Posted: Dec 23, 2004 8:55 PM | HAN Fan ]

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Re: Orix-Kintetsu Merger Fallout
[ Author: Guest: John Brooks | Posted: Dec 24, 2004 6:08 AM ]

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Re: Orix-Kintetsu Merger Fallout
[ Author: Guest: Dylan | Posted: Dec 30, 2004 11:48 AM ]

The Kintetsu ownership used seriously bad judgement. If they had just allowed Live Door to buy the team, then we would have two teams, two stadiums, happy Osaka fans, and happy Kobe fans. Now we have one team, two stadiums, Osaka fans who won't support the team, Kobe fans who won't support the team, and all the best players who won't play for the team. The Kintestsu owners had no vision. UGH!
Re: Orix-Kintetsu Merger Fallout
[ Author: Guest: John Brooks | Posted: Dec 31, 2004 1:15 AM ]

- The Kintetsu ownership used seriously bad judgement. If they had just allowed Live Door to buy the team, then we would have two teams, two stadiums, happy Osaka fans, and happy Kobe fans.

Kintetsu and Orix wanted to merge so much that they didn't stop to think about the consequences of it. In the end, this came out and hurt the Orix Buffaloes, as Iwakuma ended up playing for Rakuten. They again and again should have allowed Livedoor to buy the team, but the owners in charge refused to even talk to Horie. For more on the fallout after the season, check the "JBPBA to back Iwakuma" thread.
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