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Post Season Changes Agreement
The Central League and Pacific League have finally agreed a unified format for the League and Japan Series. The changes are as follows:
  1. The Inter-league games will be reduced to 24 in number out of a total of 144 games in each league. The Central League wanted a reduction to 18 games but accepted a compromise. I believe the Pacific League will continue to start a week earlier though.
  2. The top team in the League at the end of the season will be the League Champion in both leagues, but in the Central League no longer advances to the Japan Series as of right.
  3. The top three teams will play each other for the right to advance to the Japan Series. The first series ("First Stage") will be between the third and second place teams with the winner playing the League Champion for the right to advance to the Japan Series.
Both sides have shown an ability to compromise and have eliminated some of the absurdities that existed before.
Comments
Re: Post Season Changes Agreement
[ Author: Yakulto | Posted: Sep 5, 2006 3:10 PM | TYS Fan ]


Sounds fine to me. And thank goodness the two leagues came to an agreement - two different systems would have been absurd.

I look forward to more details (length of series, any home advantage etc.).

If only it started this year.
Re: Post Season Changes Agreement
[ Author: mijow | Posted: Sep 5, 2006 10:55 PM | HT Fan ]

As Yakulto said, at least the two leagues will have the same system. That was the biggest absurdity.

The playoffs should provide some extra buzz in September and October.

But of course they've now created a new absurdity in that the Nippon Champion may end up being neither of the League Champions. I just hope all these "champion" teams don't all end up having victory parades and causing traffic jams all over Japan.
Re: Post Season Changes Agreement
[ Author: NiGHTS | Posted: Sep 6, 2006 12:24 AM | TYS Fan ]

I can only see this as a positive change. It's finally going to give teams in the CL a chance to continue playing through the post season rather then wait to be blown away like Hanshin was last year.
Re: Post Season Changes Agreement
[ Author: Something Lions | Posted: Sep 6, 2006 12:47 AM | SL Fan ]

In an ideal world, I'd like to see one league of 12 teams (and more when franchises become profitable, hopefully through NFL/NHL type partnerships between ownership and players association), and a separate cup championship, a la football (soccer). Along with an interlocking schedule with the Korean and Taiwanese leagues. OK, enough pipe dreams for now.

But realistically, this is a pretty good arrangement.
Re: Post Season Changes Agreement
[ Author: mijow | Posted: Sep 6, 2006 8:44 AM | HT Fan ]

My comment above should have read as follows:

"That was the biggest absurdity - having different systems for each league."
Re: Post Season Changes Agreement
[ Author: Jbroks86 | Posted: Sep 6, 2006 10:25 AM | SFT Fan ]

As said above, now at least the two leagues have the same system. However, also as said above, I hope that there isn't a situation where neither of the League Champs win the Nippon Series, and still have a parade, as that would be useless.
Re: Post Season Changes Agreement
[ Author: BigManZam | Posted: Sep 14, 2006 9:36 AM | CLM Fan ]

Awesome and about time.
Re: Post Season Changes Agreement
[ Author: Heian-794 | Posted: Sep 21, 2006 1:50 AM | HT Fan ]

But just imagine what a great pennant race PL fans would be enjoying right now had they not instituted these playoffs.

This should be a down-to-the-wire battle with two games separating three teams, but instead the playoff spots were decided with a month left to play.
Re: Post Season Changes Agreement
[ Author: Guest: Bob | Posted: Sep 21, 2006 8:54 AM ]

That's always the trade off. You can either have an exciting post season, which a lot of fans like, or an exciting winner take all pennant race, which a lot of fans like also. However, you can't guarantee that all the time you will have a good race.
Re: Post Season Changes Agreement
[ Author: mijow | Posted: Sep 21, 2006 9:19 AM | HT Fan ]

But it's still a great race. The home field advantage plus the layoff for the first placed team is still worth fighting for.

As Jim Allen reported in his "the Hot Corner" column today:
"This is like the playoffs," Hawks slugger Julio Zuleta said after his five RBIs beat the Lions at Invoice Seibu Dome on Monday. "These guys [the Lions] are going out to win, so you've got to play hard. Everyone is giving 100 percent all the time. It makes you play better."
Re: Post Season Changes Agreement
[ Author: Something Lions | Posted: Sep 21, 2006 4:15 PM | SL Fan ]

Actually, the one win "advantage" that the first place team receives in the Second Stage of the playoffs is so great that it's definitely worth fighting for, just like when the first place was a guaranteed ticket to the Japan Series. The 1 win advantage makes it about 20% more likely that the first place team advances to the Series than before.

Anyways, you can't point at a sample size of 1 (this season) and say that the system has failed. Some years first place is locked up in August, other years it's a tight finish for first by 2-3 teams. Because of the advantage system (which will be included in the new PSG), the only situation where the playoff race will be rather "lame" would be something like 1>>2>3>>4>5>6. And it gives a ray of hope (however slight) to teams close to third place (and hopefully bring those fans into the stadiums and in front of TVs).

[Editor Comment: What does the notation in "1>>2>3>>4>5>6" mean? Vaster differences for >> than for >?]
Re: Post Season Changes Agreement
[ Author: Guest | Posted: Sep 22, 2006 2:43 AM ]

Yeah, that's what I meant. First place being far ahead of second, and third place being far ahead of fourth. Hence eliminating the important playoff spot races.
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